Jeff Nippard || Clearing The Air || Saving Face - DO WE AGREE with RPE???

Good day coach Greg, I'm lifting justjust for 2 weeks a newbie to the obvious, I'm 41 year old, do I have to lift til failure to build muscle or just close to failure, I hope you can notice me. Thank you, Jeff from Philippines

So much drama in the fitness world... sounds like a bunch of high school girls

Maingaining doesn't work at your current BF%

Lame. RPE is good.

I'm only here for the content creator drama 🤣

I'll hate on jeff. He's spent a fair amount of time trying to make himself right with this slack ass training style. I trained like that for years without even realizing it. It wasn't until i actually pushed to true failure that i even felt like i was accomplishing anything in the gym. I was working out for up to 2 hours on a chest/tri's day! All because i wasn't going to true failure. I'll never go back to training that way. Now i can hit an upper push in 45 minutes and be spent afterwards. That being said, there are obviously exercises that you just can't go to failure with safely. I'm not gonna get under a barbell for a set of squats to absolute failure. But back to the original point, jeff keeps going to these other tools that say it's necessary to eat an insane amount of calories in a day to gain muscle, and try to break shit down to "where you are in your meso-cycle." Too much science for something that is different for everyone, and by definition, not aplicable to everyone. I'm not taking their word for anything. Just go your ass to the gym and train and don't listen to people that overcomplicate basic principles.

8 inches Greg

Jeff is the kind of guy that I don't want to hang out with. Just way too sensitive. Dr. Greg, you are kind of sensitive as well but at least you train hard.

Sitting in a research lab doing science... *preens* aww he thinks I work harder than last time =D

The advice „train harder than last time“ sounds good but is misleading longterm. Everyone will hit a ceiling. At that point one needs to take a step back, i.e. train less hard. It took me forever to finally get that and make progress continuously since i did. RPE is ideal to know when to dial back before hitting the ceiling.

That cat has zeeeeerrrroo respect for Greg.

Jeff is ridiculous. Counting reps does not equate effort. You can literally do 10 reps for an entire year but HARDER THAN LAST TIME means increase the weight or slow the egress or a number of different ways to increase muscle growth. That’s why coach states it in such global terms. DO SOMETHING THAT MAKES IT HARDER THAN LAST TIME.

Real Housewives of Gym AMhistoryrs incoming from Bravo soon

Correlation causation seems lost with all but Greg

Just train safely and get stronger TADAAAA

I’m team Greg Doucette. Greg’s information is more applicable in real life.

As much as I love Jeff Nippard and those Science guys (because they put out great information) I think in this case they are taking this situation WAY TOO personally rather than trying to be objective about it. They are taking coah Gregs words out of context and misunderstading what he's saying (maybe they're doing it on purpose, or by accident, I don't know). But I'm glad coach Greg is standing up for himself, keep doing it. I also noticed how coach Greg is speaking in a normal tone of voice rather than shouting like he normally would do, I think he's done this on purpose so his message doesn't get lost in the chaos of screaming lol :) Love ya Dr. Greg!

I just realised why Greg making these types of videos annoy me so much: I tell you what you need to hear not what you want to hear. Is basically i am not being an asshole, i am just being honest (also know as THE asshole line/excuse) :C I'm unsubscribing to Greg but i like Ally so i will stay subscribed to her :)

Greg’s content is getting old repetitive and drama driven and all he does is constantly scream. The good viewing days have passed us sadly

me, 6'2" looking both Greg and Jeff on youtube...."MANLET FIGHT!!!!" LOL

I think Greg and Jeff agrees on this particular matter. Plus calling out half assed accusations on Jeff was an immature thing by him in the past.

Let's just be honest about some things here: 1. All of guys calling a Jeff a simp or putting him down for defending his girlfriend are both childish and hypocrites. So you're saying if someone hurt your wife's feelings you wouldn't defend her? Get real man. 2. Greg and Jeff are both very great and knowledgeable people so this whole argument between training intensity is kinda dumb in my opinion 3. That being said, I do really like Greg but I feel he does have a habit of saying things that can come off as rude or disrespectful. I have a hard time Greg "doesn't remember" what he said I think its kind of an excuse to "save face" Greg and Jeff love you both but I think there is some actual personal stuff between you two that as men you need to talk and work it out with. I do gotta give Greg props that he put in his video his older statements and corrected some of his comments

So jeff still trying to make excuses for training like a puddy cat? 😹

Jeff obviously is more sensitive than last time

This video is gold. lmao

Dude how in the hell did that guy get 2 mill subscribers? Hes garbage his training is garbage and his body is garbage , what the hell has happened to the fitness industry

I dissagree with u on this one ://

I think Jeff nippard should have commented here... Greg always comments on his videos and praises him

2:20 LOOOL Jeff always trained like how hes training now, he may have been slacking a bit in the past bue it was due to injuries

Personally think you've both got this wrong. Studies are done on specific groups of people. A Study done on intermediate trainees (Any good study tells the reader the standard of lifter it is tested upon) Shows a training protocol on intermediates. It can then Quantify information to suggest if the protocol is good for intermediates or not. Say if a 10x10 GVT study is done on intermediate athletes. "It is found that a significant amount of muscle growth can be attained in Intermediate lifters from an 8-week GVT Protocol" This is not suggesting that this would work for beginners or advanced lifters. It needs to be tweaked for both. beginners should probably drop the volume to nearer 5x10. For advanced trainees however I would advocate 5x10 then 5x5, This then increases mechanical tension within the muscle bellies with the same high intensity metabolic stress overload within the fibers. Similar case with RPE. beginners do not have to worry about RPE as long as they are moving weight around and increasing weight week on week (training harder than last time). Intermediate athletes are more likely to require a way to sense load and RPE is a good way. RPE 2 to 1 is key here. for Advanced trainees RPE is a key point. However, RPE 10 should be put in place regularly throughout a training cycle to stimulate growth. Even sets that go beyond RPE 10(failure) Like drop sets. Hope This hypothesis comes to both of you, and you can reply with your thoughts.

The funny thing is, RPE is literally just a measurement. Everyone is RPE training whether they like it or not. If you don't know what RPE is and you went to the gym and hit any weight to failure, whether you wanted to or not, you managed to hit that weight at RPE 10. Depending on your goals, whether you're a powerlifter or looking for hypertrophy, that will determine what RPE you're aiming for throughout your weeks of training. Lifting RPE 10 consistently every day of the week when you're looking to build strength and powerlift can be very dangerous on your body when your RPE 10 is consistently during heavy 1 rep maxes, however the same can't be said about hypertrophy training as you can manage RPE 10 with lighter and safer weight that will compensate your joints a little more than 1 rep maxes would and still manage to achieve hypertrophy in the muscles the same as you would with heavy weight. Personally, I believe that focusing on RPE beyond what I say after this is stupid if you're hypertrophy training. In a lift of 4 sets of X number of reps, I think it's best to aim for RPE 7-9 (you don't even have to call it RPE, just aim for 2-3 reps less than failure) the first two sets of a movement and RPE 10 the last two sets, meaning you achieve failure in the last two sets. I don't powerlift, so I can't speak for strength training much, but I do believe that powerlifting is far more important for focusing on RPE as you need to gradually work up to lifting heavier and heavier before you deload at the end of your program and you need to preserve energy throughout your sets working up to your RPE 10 set or else you'll be fatigued too early come the time to hit that heavy set.

I was training like a pussy on my pussy with my pussy for pussies on an RPE of pussies

Why not just lift until you can't fulfill the rep with good form instead? The RPE thing really doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever.

Jeff I think just uses you for content ideas lol.

I feel bad for Jeff Greg always goes after him like relax man go get hard on someone else’s maybe even harder

Training is fairly simple, the only reason we have Jeff Nippard & similar "teaching" about RPE and other non-sense stuff is for us to believe that the reason why "we" are fat and weak is because of the training plan not because we are pussies in the gym (and in the kitchen) and we desperately need to buy their crappy gym programs (they are always publishing new ones with ultra super mega advance new techniques). 99.6% of people would benefit from Doc Greg videos with his simple message: train harder than last time, track your calories, use proper form. The other 0.4% that are at an intermediate/advance level may need to consider other approaches, but let's be serious, for the general population that does not train, train once per month (when they go to pay the gym subscription) or are at the gym just lifting RPE 0.5 would see significant improvements just by using proper form and train hard. Or does anyone believe that the fatso in your fym lifting 10kg in the bench press for 15 reps (with 40 left in the tank) needs to follow the hypertrophy & stregth program from jeff nippard with dropsets, supersets, rpe xpto, use one arm lat pulldowns to fully extend the lats...

I think Greg just really tries to “dumb down” and make his info super approachable for the average and beginner person. He sounds sincere, because he speaks to you in an understanding way. Other youtubers sometimes try to sound too smart and use this great vocabulary and philosophy while in the end they basically say the same thing... We’re just going in circles here 😴

I don't think I've ever heard the word "pussy" this much ever lmao.

You have to eat more if you work harder if you want better quality of gains natural nasty natty. Both of u are right its just better to get it done faster then last time live and learn faster than last time😷💩🧻

Shut up Greg doucette you flop

Does Greg claim natural status?

I’ve tried Mikes program and by far was the worst training program I’ve waisted money on. So RPE In my opinion is garbage. Even being an advanced lifter RPE is a feel that can change from day to do. I prefer to do warm up sets a moderate working set and a set to failure depending on the exercise.

Jeff is like the English speaking version of Canelo

@Greg basically you're not blaming rpe you're blaming bad programming. You caved

11:50 - this clip was fucking hilarious

I do wish Jeff saw more of what you say and took it with less offense. He has such a great channel but every once and a while he gets so focused on the results of study's that he does not question the integrity, and real application of the study.

Pro bodybuilder vs a fitness youtuber. I wonder who would get me a pro card faster than last time..

Don't worry Coach Greg, he's just sore about the pussy comment in my opinion.

Jeff sat at his desk like a president!

I guess he's done with Kali because he been exposed for snitching. Lol. Just think they follow this channel for drama. Instead of training tips. Sad

Jeff needs to do a video thanking Coach Greg for pushing him to train harder lol

Jesus please be less of a pussy!

nailed it Greg!

Jeff nippard reminds me of those annoying all knowing nagging personal trainers in my local gym that think they know everything about bodybuilding yet haven't competed once, don't even follow the sport nor are they strong or look big but somehow their advice is still the best out there? If that is then how come you're not big nor strong? Their response usually is: "oow because I don't want to be to big" right... thing like: "if you eat this like 20 min before your workout you might increase potential anabolic stimulus by 3.32% if everything done correctly and that's why you're meal timing is worse than mine" that's the sort of stuff Jeff nippard does as well. Overcomplicating things that don't even serve a practical purpose.

Jeff Nippard SHOW THE EVIDENCE HE CALLED YOU A PUSSY. I MEAN YOU DO ACT LIKE ONE BUT SHOW US THE PROOF HE DID CALL YOU ONE. Stephanie and him deserve each other they got same IQ level 🤯

Jeff is making money going after Greg. Those are the facts. Clout chase and initiate drama harder than last time. It's good business.

This is a lot of hullabaloo over nothing. But also, Coach Greg called Jeff’s girlfriend obese, which might fit his definition, but is also kinda harsh for a woman with a former eating disorder.

Sounds like Greg hurt her feelings...

Thanks Coach Buff Cuomo!

10:00 is the mustache a request for that video conference ahahahha lol!!

I love jeff nippard videos, Ive learnt alot but I think he takes Greg too serious. Jeff looks legitimately upset

"Studies are for pussies" is my new favorite quote

What happens if you train harder than last time ever since you have started working out 🤔🤔

So much pussy in one video :))

I love body building wars on you tube...thanks to all of you ego fueled muscle bound wanna be egg heads...

Do not buy his cookbook . It is a complete waste of money . It’s worth maybe 20 bucks . For a bunch of wrap and sandwiches recipes !!! You will get scammed out of a lot of money !

these AMhistory fitness people are so thinned skin. Instead of focusing purely on their muscle development, they should focus on their mental strength... so they can stop being a bunch of pussies

That doesnt make sense. Who wld say *Studies are for pussies?* I think Jeff Strawmanned Dr Greg's argument regarding studies. However, i like both Jeff and Greg.

Jeff just salty Greg called his gf obese

The irony is that basing your fitness program entirely on studies by dyel scientists actually is for pussies

Coach you said something in one of your videos that was really valuable to me and I think it’s worth remembering and repeating. You said “it takes years before you can truly train like an animal!” (or something very similar). I think Nippard must’ve missed that video.

I just get so sick of people like Jeff who need to try and put a number on anything to guys who still have an arm circumference of 12 inches. That’s literally his audience. No one who already knows what they’re doing or who has a good physique is even watching Jeff

Im jealous of the two veins running down the middle of his biceps he has

Jeff has a pussy voice.

Sounded a lot of backtracking there chief

I wonder if Coach Greg has actually seen one of Jeff's full workout programs. I've run his Full Body High Frequency twice. I love it. I think the only time there was a prescribed RPE of 6 was maybe during the deload week. The rest of the time it seems as if Jeff tries to balance the intensity with the ability to recover....which seems important when running that type of program. Gotta admit tho....Jeff seems like he's being a little sensitive. lol

I watched a lot of your videos and that doesn't even sound like the way you would word a video!! One reason I watch your videos is you're more professional than that and I have heard you say the way you explained it. because I remember it because I was shaking my head up and down saying yep that's for sure The studies don't always use trained athletes to say the least. I've never seen you do anything that needs recanting. problem is telling the truth hurts a lot of people's feelings nowadays. Now I will go out of my way and say are they are pussies!!! if you don't want people to find out the truth about what you're doing or lying about it's not wise to be on AMhistory. slander videos like you're having to deal with just make all these other idiots look like children. Honestly that's putting it very polite. you know what makes me feel dumb as I have the same critique of you that Kenny KO did. Lol. I shouldn't say that Kenny doesn't seem like a bad guy. I like your older training based videos and so did he. But you know what you're doing and I'm splitting hairs. But for the most part the newer videos are entertaining rather than educational. Somebody with your experience and wisdom on dietetics and bodybuilding shouldn't waste your time dealing with these trivial uneducated people. That's like somebody that should be a professor at Harvard going to work at Idaho community college. Yes I live in North Idaho It sucks. What you know and your experience I honestly consider priceless. If you would have been around when I started you would have saved me eight or nine years at least of spending my wheels. On the exact age you are so I understand how hard and how long you work to earn what you have learned. Anyway one of your biggest fans and thanks again

i love this pussy argument

loooool Jeff being triggered by ignoring studies yet when discussing whether eggs raise serum cholesterol has cherry-picked EVERY SINGLE study he referenced whilst ignoring huge meta analyses on the topic and criticisms made by other youtubers who are not complete morons, then he invited onto his channel that moron Jamal who has cherry picked the same studies whilst being a dishonest liar and then Jeff refused to address directly the actual criticisms made and even refused to debate the topic at hand like a...a... what's the word? A ''PUSSY''! Yeah, great job Jeff as always... I hate this guy he's just a dishonest idiot who just spreads a lot of misinformation and who deserves a lot more criticism than he actually gets...

Bro your spot on with your information! Please keep putting your knowledge out there 🙏 💯.

I don’t see Jeff clapping back on this video yet 👀

Jeff is definitely knowledgeable and its clear he's dedicated to his craft, but as a person, he's soft when it comes to a little criticism.. The wave of PC/me too culture.. He probably was reinforced with only positivity his whole life. Work on training your mental because words are just words. .. Even though Greg's voice sounds like someone grabbed him by the balls , Atleast it seems like he can take criticism?

Somebody out there put Jeffy boy on TRT and TREN

It feels like a love-hate relationship...Guys just get a room and let it be over :)

Videod harder than last time m8

Good video Greg

Nippard looks like a 9yr old on steroids.

great response. jeff n twisted a lot of your words

"All of us are trying to help" tell that to kali muscle's ab video

wait what is Jeff's educational background. I feel like many are just posting tips they got through out their life training and don't understand studies. myself I'm a UTEP grad fall semester 2020 for kinesiology.

Jeff took an L on this one... Sounding like a lil bit** and clearly didn’t watch all of Greg’s videos about him. I like Jeff, have bought his program, but he just looks foolish...

Jeff is a pussy. Great vid

I'm starting to think Jeff is a pussy, just for being so butt-hurt about Greg arguing a point against Jeff's vid.

Also just cause you lift weights dont make you not a pussy

Jeff cares way too much about the numbers. Just train

I'm a natural lifter that trains hard 7x a week. Completely agree with coach Greg, naturally I have a better physique then most of these AMhistoryrs. Greg's advice has fully helped me as an advanced lifter!

Did you speed up Jeff's voice? What happened?

I'm a beginner and I already know that if I was to use the RPE, it would end up in doing less work. Maybe not intentionally but with some exercises I think, I have 2 reps in the tank when I lift up the bar. And with some, it's the opposite. I can see the benefit for someone more advanced, but overall, I don't think it is for me.

Why are non powerlifters doing RPE tho

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